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Re: Nuova vita in Grecia per gli ETR.470 | Del 25/07/18

#91 Messaggio da Frecciargento88 » mer 13 feb 2019 15:41

Ti auguro un buon amico! Capisco perfettamente cosa stai scrivendo! Che cosa scrivo, dal momento che è un programma di traduzione google per te comprensibile, intendono? Quindi, bacio, dì che nei due etr hai iniziato a capire che il lavoro di trasformazione?

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#92 Messaggio da UluruMS » mer 13 feb 2019 15:49

Stavolta non ho capito... :sofa:
prova a scriverlo direttamente in inglese
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#93 Messaggio da Frecciargento88 » mer 13 feb 2019 15:56

I was trying to thank you for your information ! So the first train will be ready on May for Trainose ?You wrote above that the other 3 Etr will go for refurbishment during the next month ?

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#94 Messaggio da UluruMS » mer 13 feb 2019 16:18

They are my hypotesis.
I suppose that the first train will be ready on may (not before) because usually it takes at least 6 months for a refurbishment prototype and usually the ETR460-485 trains pass 13 weeks in shop for a third level restoration.
It's a possibility that the other 3 trains could go to refurbishment from the next month because the services they are currently operating will change numeration from 9 of march.
But it's not for certain.
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#95 Messaggio da Frecciargento88 » mer 13 feb 2019 18:15

Thank you very much my friend ! I really articulate your precious information! The numeration that you wrote above about the train has to do with the change of the train -type ? I mean from the next month the trains will be replaced by etr 700 ( for example ) ?
I hope the refurbishment including new seats or interior generally , like what they did in the etr 700 ( am I right ? )
Ps. etr 700 in frecciargento services what they will replace ?

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#96 Messaggio da UluruMS » gio 14 feb 2019 8:39

It’s a possibility , but for sure they will not be substitute by ETR700. May be by ETR460 or E414.
I too hope that all the ETR460-470-485 will have new seats.
As far as I know the first ETR700 will operate some Milano-Pescara replacing E414 white arrow
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#97 Messaggio da Frecciargento88 » gio 14 feb 2019 14:01

Etr 700 will be frecciabianca to replace E414 or as frecciargento service ? I think that etr 470 should have new seats and a new painting for Trainose !
The competition will be intense opposite to railjet ( which is newer ) so I hope that the etr 470 to be modernized and I wish sometime to send also to Greece a pair of etr600 or etr700 which are super modern outside and inside ! Trainose has not her own trains , and renting from Gaiose which is a different company and I think that they don’t have the better relationship! I think is
More comfortable for FS ( as the company already told) to
bring trains from Italy

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#98 Messaggio da UluruMS » gio 14 feb 2019 16:18

The ETR700 will be Freccia argento.
It was investigated to use in Greece also other trains from the ETR of Trenitalia.
Sincerly I believe a bad idea to use 2 or 3 trains also of the ETR600 or ETR700; it would be a maintenance nightmare.
With a maximum of 10 trains of the same model you could operate a two-hourly service between Athen and Thessaloniki.
5 to 7 shortened ETR470/60 seems to be a good choice for the beginning.
FS tried to buy Gaiose, but the deal wasn't accepted
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#99 Messaggio da Frecciargento88 » ven 15 feb 2019 15:48

I see my friend ! Trainose and as a result (FS group) bought EESTYY ( the company that is responsible for the maintenance of the rolling stock in Greece ! ) I personally like very much the family of Italian Highspeed trainsets ! Unfortunately I have never travelled with Fs trains in Italy and I am looking forward for the etr 470 in Greece ( as most of people in Greece that preferring trains for traveling) ! I hope the exterior to be painted in a special color for Trainose and a refreshed interior will make the train brand new ! Personally I prefer the design of etr than the railjet that will also some in Greece for Athens - Thessaloniki itineraries! The composition of etr with reduction of the composition to 6 carriages will cost the power of the train or this is not a relative factor ? To 460 how can make a composition with 470 in order to have more trainsets for Greece ?

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#100 Messaggio da UluruMS » ven 15 feb 2019 19:44

As the ex Fyra V250 are refurbished also in livery and interiors when trasforming in ETR700, I expect that also the ETR470 will follow a similar treatment.
As wrote Lirex before, the ETR470 are composed by 3 tractions units; each of this includes 2 power units with 4 motors and a trailer that carries the transformer.
Reducing the train from 3 to 2 traction units will reduce the power output but will not change the power to weight ratio.
Also, from the shortening of the trains, there would be 5 spare trailers with transformer.
4 of these coul be used, combined with 4 power cars of ETR460, to obtain 2 more trains.
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#101 Messaggio da stadlergtw » ven 01 mar 2019 9:55

Qualcuno ha notizie da Savigliano?

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#102 Messaggio da Frecciargento88 » ven 08 mar 2019 12:23

My friend Ulurus or anyone else if knows tomorrow 9th March will change the numeration of the services that are operating at the moment by Etr 470 correct ? Do we have any information if etr 470 ( the 3 that are remaining in this service ) will be out of service from the itineraries in order to be prepared for Greece ?

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#103 Messaggio da UluruMS » ven 08 mar 2019 14:24

As far as I know they are still scheduled as ETR470.
Let’s in the next days
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#104 Messaggio da Frecciargento88 » ven 08 mar 2019 15:08

The are being scheduled for how long ? I mean how can last the period with a specific type of train ? For example they can change the type of train suddenly or always is being planned ?

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#105 Messaggio da daucus » sab 09 mar 2019 15:00

I tried a booking for a train on april and offered me ETR470 where are now, except that did not allow me to book due to a strange rule that does not allow me to book trains on 31/3 and 1/4 .
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